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I want to gain 9 pounds in 2 weeks. I bought mass xxx from VitaminShoppe. Any other suggestions?

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My first question is: I want to gain 9 pounds in 2 weeks. I bought mass xxx from VitaminShoppe. Any other suggestions?.

My next question is: Hello all,.

I have been researching for a while now and have decided that I would like to try a cycle. Sustanton for 250mg a week and Deca for 200mg a week.(Lower doses to see if there is any bad reactions) All for 12 weeks. Then for Pct I would use HCG and nolvadex. Administration of the HCG starting on the last week of the cycle and after that use the nolvadex. Ne advice?? Also I THINK I found a good source but not sure yet. I havent purchased anything yet because I would like the advice from experts before I order anything so I make sure that I do it right...

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Your question was: I want to gain 9 pounds in 2 weeks. I bought mass xxx from VitaminShoppe. Any other suggestions?.

Not to my knowledge it wont be on sust or test e alone mate..

Comment #1

HCG is administerd throughout the cycle. It reduces/stops the shutdown of your natural testosterone. You dont take it as soley pct..

For a 1st cycle clomid or nolva would suffice. I personally use nolva..

I would also recommend the use of 1 compound. That being a slow release test such as Enanthate OR Sus. There isnt much difference between the 2 on half life times. Enathate is a single ester whereas sus is a mixture of 4..

250mg - 500mg per week. Single jab. 10 weeks. Start pct 2 weeks after last jab...

Comment #2

Yup test e on it's own..

I`d probly use hcg too altho nolva/clomid would probly suffice..

Comment #3

Well id disagree with everyone else and say your first post was the best idea in my opinion....

Low dose sust/decca for 8-12 weeks.. and id run nolva for your PCT.

I think th ebenefits of running both together should give good gains as opposed to just running test on it's own. which will give good gains yes but I dont think going from 250mg test to 500mg would make a massive difference especially not for a first course.. so id stick to 250 and add in the decca and get additional gains from using another compound!.

Just another way of looking at things I suppose!..

Comment #4

Nice comments fellas. Thank you for the advice I really appreciate the help...

Comment #5

What do you think about the HCG? Necessary or not? Id rather be cautious and have everything than not and be screwed in the end...

Comment #6

Personally for my first cycle i'm not going to use HCG. There are a lot of mixed views on this. HCG will keep your boys down below there throughout your cycle rather than trying to awake them after a 10 week sleep. Not in technical terms of course...

Comment #7

Personally I dont think there is an actual need for the HCG. but it definitely wont do any harm!..

Comment #8

Why not? if you use 2 compounds on your first cycle and 2 compounds on your 10th. The likely hood is people would start recommending HCG on the 10th. So I'm wondering why not? you either have shutdown or you dont right?.

BTW I very much respect what you have to say lee so in the future ill have many questions for you. Just wondering thats all, because you know much more than I do..

Comment #9

Im not sure if you advertising on here is allowed. Also not to be rude but this sounds like a scammer out fishing for some bites. IMO. Be careful of what you put on these boards...

Comment #10

Musclehound I'm sure you realise this without me pointing it out but trying to shift gear through the board is not tolerated..

If you don't know try reading the site rules..

Cheers.

Pikey..

Comment #11

Thanks pikey mate - he is now banned, please all board members be aware ths guy is most probably going to try and scam you!..

Comment #12

I always use HCG now during a cycle as the benefits are huge, it is much easier to recover the HPTA after a cycle if you use HCG during the cycle than try to jump start the boys after a cycle.....

As for when you should use it well to be honest in my opinion you should use it on every cycle including your first as you will still suppress your HPTA so it will help......

Comment #13

Does that mean I won't be getting my Pizza in 30 minutes or less?..

Comment #14

If anyone on here is getting pizza it's ME!!! lol..

Comment #15

I wish! I havent had pizza in about 2 years... Oh well...

Comment #16

Oh man, no pizza in 2 years!!! I might phone Domino's!!!..

Comment #17

No pizza in 2 years???? you livin on mars?..

Comment #18

I think I might bring a slice in the gym and eat it front of you on sunday lee...

Comment #19

Getting back on track, I think sust is a good choice for a first course. The fact you have fast and slow acting tests is less likely to shut you down than enanthate, why do you think the NHS prescribe sustanon rather than Enanthate for guys with low test problems?.

I also think the longest course anyone should do is 8 weeks, by the time the slower acting esters leave your system you will have been on for 10 weeks. I honestly believe it's better to hit the body with a higher dose for a shorter period for a man, a woman responds better to a low dose over a longer time unlike a man who is less likely to shut down with a larger dose over a shorter period..

Why restrict to a single source? Every different anabolic and androgenic had a different chemical shape, like a key, receptors are thought to accept different keys. Hence the reason some people respond better to high anabolics and others to high androgens, personally I can grow on 200mg Equipoise, 200mg Primo and a 200/250mg shot of sust or enanthate every 8th day..

For a first timer or novice I'd say 250mg of sust and 200mg of deca every 5th day for 6-8 weeks is perfect...

Comment #20

Thank you for your advise extreme. Lets just say, if I had 12 weeks worth of the cycle and wanted to use higher doses(depending on my reaction to the gear) towards the end of an 8 week cycle, would that be ok or no?..

Comment #21

It would be ok and shouldnt do any harm. but in my opinion theres no need. the base amounts your putting into yourself there are ALOT more than what your body is used to and this is a first course, so I think in terms of adding muscle youll respond to the lower dose just the same as the higher dose! the higher dose will make side effects more apparant!..

Comment #22

I agree with Lee, if it's your first go at it take your 250ml sust and 200mg Deca once a week for 8 weeks and no longer. You need to see how you react and how your body recovers.

When I first started using gear nobody I knew including me bothered with PCT, but we all did shorter courses to avoid shut down.

I can't understand the logic of most of the people offering advice on these forums advising beginners to take enanthate for 12 weeks, I'd love to know where that gem of knowledge came from!.

Science has shown men are better with shorter courses and women are better with low doses and longer courses because their bodies don't like change and their hormonal balance is more delicate than a mans...

Comment #23

Thanks fellas. So with this information provided, I have changed my plans to an 8 week cycle. So thanks again for the great advice...

Comment #24

Im glad to see mixed offerings for first timers. thank you lee and extreme for giving your experienced knowledge...

Comment #25

Thx Pscarb, so what dosage of HCG would you recommend on a beginers cycle of sust and deca around the 200mg marks, for a course that ran 8 weeks..

My main concern is PCT, avoiding gyno and making sure my D**K works again after cycle..

What would the cycle look like and what weeks and how frequent in a week would you adminster HCG, nolvadex and Clomid (or would you not include Clomid). thx in advance...

Comment #26

Recieved the stuff a couple of days ago, just had a few more questions before I started..

So what do I do now?.

1. Well if I have 2x 30ml bacs water and 3x5000iu ampules of HCG(actually there are 3 bigger ampules and 3 smaller ampules), how do I mix/how much/ what exactly?.

2. Storage is limited as well because I live with my parents. Any suggestions on how I should keep the HCG?.

3. I read that HCG should be administered sub Q but the ampules say intramuscular..

4. I planned on doing an 8 week cycle of 250mg sustanton a week and 200mg deca a week , but I have 9 weeks worth of these and was wondering if I should up the first dose to 500mg sust and 400mg of deca. Ne Ideas?..

Comment #27

In a box of HCG you will get 1 amp of water (1ml) and 1amp of powder(HCG) you mix the water with the powder you now have 5000iu's of HCG in 1ml of solution if you use a Slin pin then each bold line = 500iu's.

Once mixed it has to be refrigerated.

Sub-Q or IM is fine.

In my opinion you should be using just 500mg of sus and drop the deca.....

Comment #28

Just one more question that needs to be answered though:: My HCG came with 6 ampules, 3 bigger ampules with a white powder and 3 smaller ampules with 1ML of "Pregnyl". Do I mix both with the bac water or just the powder??? Help please.

Nevermind about this question. Figured it out...

Comment #29

So Monday starts the first jab. Im kinda nervous but also excited to see the results. One last look through of steps in this process and I just wanted to make sure my PCT (nolva) doses were correct..

2 to 3 weeks after last jab.

Nolva for 40mg days 1 - 7.

Nolva for 20mg days 8 - 21..

Comment #30


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