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My first question is: Black spots on vegetarian vitamins from VitaminShoppe?.

My next question is: Can I mix GHB and clonidine ? Any info welcome.

Yes, I'm a cheapskate...

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I think it's a matter of personal boundries. there are many drugs that would assist in bodybuilding related circumstances. that doesn't mean they should be used. personally (maybe cos i'm getting old) rec drugs are a big no no for me. so whilst, speed,coke and nubain may help me to achieve certain goals, there's no way in hell would I ever use them. too many negatives.

As a side note,i think gh precursors are about as effective as testosterone precursors in real world use, and to me that alone discounts their use. wanna elevate endogenous gh ? then fast. that will have the same effect on your gh levels, but it won't do sh*t as regards building muscle. wanna elevate test levels ? eat shellfish. same thing applies..

Bottom line, it is your body, so do what you feel comfortable with. but take 100% responsibility for the outcome...

Comment #1

Erm take it if you want to but you asked if you can mix them and therefore do they have any interactions......

Comment #2

Well to answer your question Yes you can mix them but it would be very dangerous and the results in my opinion would not be worth it.......

Comment #3

Thanks a lot guys, I'm gona give clonidine a shot sometime soon then...

Comment #4


Clonidine is a direct-acting adrenergic agonist prescribed historically as an anti-hypertensive agent. It has found new uses, including treatment of some types of neuropathic pain, opioid detoxification, sleep hyperhydrosis, and, off-label, to counter the side effects of stimulant medications such as methylphenidate or amphetamine. It is becoming a more accepted treatment for insomnia, as well as for relief of menopausal symptoms. Clonidine is increasingly used in conjunction with stimulants to treat attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), where it's given in late afternoon and/or evening for sleep, and because it sometimes helps moderate ADHD-associated impulsive and oppositional behavior, and may reduce tics.[1] Clonidine can also be used in the treatment of Tourette syndrome.[2].


1 Indications.

1.1 Non-FDA approved uses.

2 Adverse effects.

3 Pharmacodynamics.

3.1 Clonidine suppression test.

4 Footnotes.

[edit] Indications.

The main use for this medication is used to treat high blood pressure. It works by stimulating certain brain receptors (alpha adrenergic type) which results in the relaxing of blood vessels in other parts of the body, causing them to widen..

Clonidine tablets and transdermal patch.

Clonidine is typically available as tablets (Catapres, Dixarit), as a transdermal patch (Catapres-TTS), or as an injectable form to be given epidurally, directly to the central nervous system..

[edit] Non-FDA approved uses.

This medication may also be used to ease withdrawal symptoms associated with the long-term use of narcotics, alcohol and nicotine (smoking). In addition, clonidine has also been used for migraine headaches, hot flashes associated with menopause, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.[3][4].

Clonidine is regularly prescribed to opiate addicts to help alleviate their withdrawal symptomology. It is mainly used to combat the sympathetic nervous system response to opiate withdrawal, namely tachycardia and hypertension, in the first couple days of withdrawals.[citation needed] It helps take away the sweating, hot/cold flashes, and general restlessness. The sedation effect is also useful..

[edit] Adverse effects.

This drug may cause drowsiness, lightheadedness, dry mouth, dizziness, or constipation. Clonidine may also cause hypotension.[5] Sucking on sugarless hard candy or ice chips, chewing sugarless gum, drinking water, and using a saliva substitute may help relieve dry mouth..

[edit] Pharmacodynamics.

Clonidine is a centrally-acting -adrenergic receptor agonist with more affinity for 2 than 1. It selectively stimulates receptors in the brain that monitor catecholamine levels in the blood. These receptors close a negative feedback loop that begins with descending sympathetic nerves from the brain that control the production of catecholamines (epinephrine, also known as adrenaline, and norepinephrine) in the adrenal medulla. By fooling the brain into believing that catecholamine levels are higher than they really are, clonidine causes the brain to reduce it's signals to the adrenal medulla, which in turn lowers catecholamine production and blood levels. The result is a lowered heart rate and blood pressure, with side effects of dry mouth and fatigue. If clonidine is suddenly withdrawn the sympathetic nervous system will revert to producing high levels of epinephrine and norepinephrine, higher even than before treatment, causing rebound hypertension.

[edit] Clonidine suppression test.

Clonidine's effect on reducing circulating epinephrine by a central mechanism was used in the past as an investigatory test for pheochromocytomae, which are catecholamine-synthesizing tumors, usually of the adrenal medulla. In a Clonidine suppression test plasma catecholamines levels are measured before and 3 hours after a 0.3 ug/kg oral test dose has been given to a patient. A positive test occurs if there is no decrease in plasma levels...

Comment #5

This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.


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